a bit of an intsum...
So the London bombers had been to Pakistan where it is suspected they had recieved indoctrination and training. Pakistan. Yes, Pakistan. Not Afghanistan, Pakistan.
Bush, Blair and the idiots running this country all said we'd wage against any country that harbours and trains terrorists. They haven't got the guts to try to take on Pakistan. They only attack easy pieces like Lybia, Afghanistan and Iraq.
Just as well. Pakistan would eat them alive. They know that if they attacked Pakistan the blowback would be horrendous. Likewise if these idiots dare touch Iran.
Here's my free Intsum for Bush and his band of murdering thieves:
(1) 9/11 was a message. A message to stop the abuses against the Palestinians and the Iraqis; to withdraw the US military presence in Saudi Arabia; to stop US machinations in Islamic and Arab countries. The message was clear.
(2) The invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq have been a huge recruiting bonanza for al Qaeda.
(3) Al Qaeda has morphed and is continually morphing. It is more decentralised and comparmentalised these days. Invading one country makes little difference to their overall operational capability. In fact it boosts support.
(4) It's no longer just al Qaeda. New organisations are being spawned by your imperialist machinations and mad aggression.
(5) Nothing short of a complete withdrawal from Afghanistan, Iraq, and Saudi Arabia will stop operations against Coalition targets either abroad or in Coalition countries. Oh, and it might be an idea if you stopped all military and financial aid to Israel until it withdraws the IDF and dismantles all settlements in the West Bank as well as Gaza. An even more convincing gesture might be if you used your marvellous military might (on its way home from Iraq, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, etc.) to drop by Palestine for a very brief visit to drive the IDF and the illegal settlers out pronto. Now that might win you back a bit of cred on the Arab street.
(6) The problem is not Islam or al Qaeda, etc. The problem is US and British foreign policy towards Arabic and Islamic countries and people. They will no longer tolerate interference in their affairs or the theft of their resources.
(7) Your idea of a "war on terror" merely increases the incidence of "terrorism". The more you kill on foreign soil, the more your own will die. Go home. Stop interfering in their affairs.
(8) If you respect their right to non-interference from "the West", Israel, the WTO, the IMF, the World Bank, G8, etc, "terrorism" will virtually vanish. Your economy is headed unstoppably for disaster anyway - your murderous schemes are only making it worse for you in the long run.
(9) They're onto your game. The game's up. Forget it. They're not having any of it. Get a new game. Go home and stay home. Spend a few decades eating humble pie. Rebuild your economy in ways that don't rely on the exploitation and subjugation of foreign lands and people.
(10) Grow a brain. A small one would do for starters...
Note: I do not support acts of terrorism but I understand that our crazy foreign policies have caused the hatred which has spawned them. I believe our response to this terrorism, i.e. the "war on terror", is an even greater form of terrorism than theirs and that it only makes things worse. I believe it gives them even more reason to hate us and thus will lead to even more terrorism. What we're doing is escalatory. I believe that nothing short of a complete cessation of our grand imperial posturings and a sincere "mea culpa" will lead to an abatement of terrorism.
Suki has an excellent, well referenced, parallel piece.
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Bush, Blair and the idiots running this country all said we'd wage against any country that harbours and trains terrorists. They haven't got the guts to try to take on Pakistan. They only attack easy pieces like Lybia, Afghanistan and Iraq.
Just as well. Pakistan would eat them alive. They know that if they attacked Pakistan the blowback would be horrendous. Likewise if these idiots dare touch Iran.
Here's my free Intsum for Bush and his band of murdering thieves:
(1) 9/11 was a message. A message to stop the abuses against the Palestinians and the Iraqis; to withdraw the US military presence in Saudi Arabia; to stop US machinations in Islamic and Arab countries. The message was clear.
(2) The invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq have been a huge recruiting bonanza for al Qaeda.
(3) Al Qaeda has morphed and is continually morphing. It is more decentralised and comparmentalised these days. Invading one country makes little difference to their overall operational capability. In fact it boosts support.
(4) It's no longer just al Qaeda. New organisations are being spawned by your imperialist machinations and mad aggression.
(5) Nothing short of a complete withdrawal from Afghanistan, Iraq, and Saudi Arabia will stop operations against Coalition targets either abroad or in Coalition countries. Oh, and it might be an idea if you stopped all military and financial aid to Israel until it withdraws the IDF and dismantles all settlements in the West Bank as well as Gaza. An even more convincing gesture might be if you used your marvellous military might (on its way home from Iraq, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, etc.) to drop by Palestine for a very brief visit to drive the IDF and the illegal settlers out pronto. Now that might win you back a bit of cred on the Arab street.
(6) The problem is not Islam or al Qaeda, etc. The problem is US and British foreign policy towards Arabic and Islamic countries and people. They will no longer tolerate interference in their affairs or the theft of their resources.
(7) Your idea of a "war on terror" merely increases the incidence of "terrorism". The more you kill on foreign soil, the more your own will die. Go home. Stop interfering in their affairs.
(8) If you respect their right to non-interference from "the West", Israel, the WTO, the IMF, the World Bank, G8, etc, "terrorism" will virtually vanish. Your economy is headed unstoppably for disaster anyway - your murderous schemes are only making it worse for you in the long run.
(9) They're onto your game. The game's up. Forget it. They're not having any of it. Get a new game. Go home and stay home. Spend a few decades eating humble pie. Rebuild your economy in ways that don't rely on the exploitation and subjugation of foreign lands and people.
(10) Grow a brain. A small one would do for starters...
Note: I do not support acts of terrorism but I understand that our crazy foreign policies have caused the hatred which has spawned them. I believe our response to this terrorism, i.e. the "war on terror", is an even greater form of terrorism than theirs and that it only makes things worse. I believe it gives them even more reason to hate us and thus will lead to even more terrorism. What we're doing is escalatory. I believe that nothing short of a complete cessation of our grand imperial posturings and a sincere "mea culpa" will lead to an abatement of terrorism.
Suki has an excellent, well referenced, parallel piece.
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posted by The Editor at
11:15 PM
4 Comments:
Hard-nosed. But probably a fair take.
I think some of the people involved in this terrorism stuff are a little less intellectual and a little more psychotic than you give them credit for though.
Guy, have you read the descriptions, by those who knew them, of these bombers? Have you been over to Suki's most excellent post using the link I provided? There you could have read this:"In fact, 42% have post-secondary educations, and they're part of concerted campaigns with coherent goals." - Robert Pape
Also, you don't draw a distinction between their planners, their commanders, and the "footsoldiers". Our own grunts aren't all that bright either, you know. I certainly wasn't at the time.
Perhaps you've been sucked in by the propagandists on our side. Beazely certainly has. I sure wouldn't follow that bumbling, "Boys Own" blubbering fool into battle any more than I would follow Little Johnnie HoWARd, I can tell you that much.
Nah... I wouldn't give too much credence to our spin meisters' or the media's hate-mongering crap...
If I were the Chief of the Defence Forces, I'd tell them all to shove their "war-on-terror" and I'd bring our boys and girls home. I certainly would not take part in these oil and gas thieving war crimes. This is no way to pursue "our interests". It demolishes our integrity and what little is left of our good reputation at the international level.
Theo, you have been taken to Stalag #17.
Suki, I can't really claim that much of what I say is evidence-based. Just the ramblings of an very pissed-off Vietnam vet with a few screws loose upstairs.
Urban Fox, there are lots of "expert" opinions around about what al Qaeda is or isn't. I get confused.
I do think that Islamic extremists are mounting terrorist attacks in the West. How organised and co-ordinated they are is a moot point.
Whilst they may have legitimate gripes, and I think they do, their actions are reprehensible and undermine their cause.
Then again, it's a bit stupid to complain about the actions of mad men when it is our actions which have driven them mad. That's part of the equation - the other part is that there are complete nutters preaching insane things at the extreme fringes of Islam, and mainstream moderate Islam must loudly and emphatically denounce these lunatics. All religious and political extremists give their respective movements a bad name.
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