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Friday, August 05, 2011

Celibacy...

The new taboo?

Discuss.

16 Comments:

Blogger andrewm said...

In order that we commenters don't make complete asses of ourselves, w.r.t. celibacy, are you talking about Roman Catholic Priests or teenage girls?

August 06, 2011 1:05 PM  
Blogger Gerry said...

Celibacy: the state of abstinence from sexual intercourse.

I'm talking about adult males and females in the general populace.

August 06, 2011 3:31 PM  
Blogger John Myste said...

I am against it, highly against it. Very much against it. We should all be having sex.

Celibacy! It's not natural. It's not pro-survival. It's not entertaining.

Celibacy!

August 07, 2011 2:58 PM  
Blogger Gerry said...

So, John, you'd say it's a taboo?

August 08, 2011 6:35 AM  
Blogger John Myste said...

So, John, you'd say it's a taboo?

no, just unnatural. Lots of people do it, and still more admire those who do.

August 08, 2011 6:46 AM  
Blogger andrewm said...

We must live very different lives here in the national capital. Casting my mind back over the last 10 years of social occasions, I note that the topic of celibacy has never come up once.

Oh, wait, I see what you ...

August 08, 2011 9:25 AM  
Blogger John Myste said...

@Myself,

Now that Gerry but it that way, I suppose there is a taboo among many groups in American, you among them.

Wow, seems a bit narrow-minded.

August 08, 2011 11:49 AM  
Blogger Gerry said...

@John M: My radar starts beeping madly every time I see words like "unnatural" and "abnormal". It implies a taboo on living outside the bell curve - something control-freaks frown upon.

@AndrewM: Exactly. And compare that big fat zero with the number of times sex was mentioned...
Also there is a perception that sex=good/healthy and celibacy=bad/unhealthy. Smells like a taboo to me.

August 08, 2011 12:06 PM  
Blogger AndrewM said...

I reason thusly:

Take the population of any western nation - Australia, for example, though it doesn't have to be. Deduct minors (i.e. people who have not yet reached puberty). Deduct those who by reason of age or infirmity are unable to have sexual relations and, where applicable, their partners also. Deduct those who are in committed relationships (heterosexual, homosexual, girl and her donkey - whatever). Deduct those who have casual sex, even if infrequently.

You are left with a tiny fraction of the original population. Of this remnant, the majority are unwillingly celibate (i.e. for whatever reason, they can't get sex) and should be excluded because they are probably in a committed relationship with their own right (or left) hand. These people are LOSERS. The remaining minority, probably a tiny minority, are willingly celibate, in that they have motive, means and opportunity but nevertheless do not have sex. This is akin to wandering around with your eyes shut and earplugs in your ears pretending you've been decapitated. Such people are BONEHEADS.

Since Losers and Boneheads do not make for interesting dinner party conversation, the topic of celibacy tends to not arise. That doesn't make it taboo. If, at my hypothetical dinner party, I were to raise the topic of the odour of my shit, I would be told to shut up right smartly. That topic IS taboo. Celibacy isn't taboo, it's just not interesting.

August 08, 2011 6:21 PM  
Blogger lemmiwinks said...

Andrew has summed it up nicely, it (celibacy) is just not interesting. Gettin' some, on the other hand is!

August 09, 2011 8:38 AM  
Blogger AndrewM said...

Gee, Lemmiwinks, if I got some on my other hand I'd wash it off straight away. Certainly wouldn't be boasting about it at dinner parties.

August 09, 2011 11:44 AM  
Blogger Gerry said...

Gentlemen, given the amount of energy being expended on invalidating those who choose to not have sex, Id' say there is indeed something akin to a taboo surrounding celibacy.

"not natural"
"boneheads"
"losers"

Very strong reactions...

August 09, 2011 9:17 PM  
Blogger AndrewM said...

Well, Gerry, I'm being deliberately provocative, what's your excuse? Absent my (contrived) tirade, and what have you got? John Myste and Lemmiwinks saying sex is good and abstinence isn't.

Do you have a celibacy issue yourself? Is that why you raised it? Most of the topics you post are thought provoking, but this one wasn't.

August 10, 2011 9:05 PM  
Blogger Gerry said...

@AndrewM: I raised the issue because somewhere on TV recently someone made the comment that celibacy was the new taboo. I thought that was interesting (and thought provoking) enough to run it here.

Sorry you guys didn't get a hard-on about it.

August 10, 2011 10:32 PM  
Blogger Ann O'Dyne said...

I came (snigger) to ask if you mean that The Last Taboo is discussing celibacy or being celibate?

2. is the celibate definition in regard to partnered s*x, or can a great deal of self-amusement be regarded as celibate?

but you are right that it is never a general conversational topic - nobody wants to admit they are not getting any.

Did I notice that HUNG is back on TV this week?

August 17, 2011 6:31 PM  
Blogger Gerry said...

@Ann: I meant being celibate i.e. the act of abstaining from sexual intercourse with another person. I would exclude masturbation from the definition.

August 17, 2011 9:06 PM  

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