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Thursday, February 10, 2005

abortion is wrong but war is right... huh?

Elsewhere in this blog Paul said:
How can some religious folk hold such authoritarian views in one area (e.g. abortion) yet be so liberal in another area (e.g. killing people). And these wankers think they're holier than thou... grrr
An excellent question. Comments? Anyone?

10 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

See, its not actually about "abortion" or about "war" for those who rev up the general population. Lets face it, we are affected by the news we read in the papers, hear on the radio and see on TV. And all that news is filtered by other people who decide how much of the truth we are permitted to have. So when you see the religious folk getting on their high horse about whats right and wrong, you can bet your bippy they are merely following like sheep the pontifications of those even more holy than they. They wont have given any consideration to reality, and they certainly are unable to consider the complete hypocrisy of the position they take. In other words... they do not think for themselves, and need to be spoonfed. These poor slobs are ideal pawns for those who are after the power. Cuz thats what its about.

kyte

February 10, 2005 3:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I encounter this nearly everyday. All these pseudo-christians are against abortion, but in favour of the death penalty and think killing innocent Iraqis is justified. They'll even tell you that the Bible says "Thou shall not murder" (instead of "kill") and as long as it's sanctioned by the state it isn't murder. Where do these f***ing pinheads come from??? I've even decided to disown my children (ages 41 & 38). To hell with them - they've got the government they deserve!!!

(Thinks to himself: why did I ever leave downunder?)

From the land of the zombies -

DS

February 11, 2005 11:56 AM  
Blogger Gerry said...

Kyte, I agree. It's hypocrisy and it's about power. Respect for human life is a very selective thing. And as soon as the ego gets into the act, respect for anything except "self" goes out the window.

DS, please don't disown your children. Two wrongs don't make a right. Forgive them for they know not what they do. And who are we? Do we know what we do? And if not, why do we condemn "them".

"Judge not lest ye be judged" comes to mind. So does the idea that I'm a stark raving hypocrite.

February 11, 2005 8:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You're right as usual Gerry (dammit) and if they came to me for help I couldn't turn them away, but their refusal to open their eyes to what's going on pisses me off! By the way, 2 wrongs don't make a right, but 3 do. Example: Zionists use terrorism to steal Palestine (mums the word), Palestinians fight back (world outraged), Zionist snipers kill Palestinian school girls or fire American made rockets into houses (mums the word).

DS

February 13, 2005 12:45 AM  
Blogger Noel Chrotsky said...

Hi all. Gidday again, Gerry. I've been busy lately so forgive my absence. This new post comment thingy is great :-).

Back on topic - I agree with all, especially the lack of thinking for themselves.

I'm not wise enough in the world to know, but does anyone think religion is serving more of a political role than it used to, whether that be the use of religion for political purposes or the use of the state for religious purposes? I don't just mean with George Bush, he's clearly a religious nutter, rather the trend over the last 50 years or so.

I would guess that an increasing political role for religion would increase the likelihood of these moral dichotomies arising. Abortion, euthanasia, etc. make for great wedge issues and it serves the interests of politicians to push the envelope with them. Of course, in creating a wedge issue you have to manufacture/exaggerate some moral basis for it and in doing so, your claim to morality will become well out of synch with your morality on other issues. Hence the pro-lifer (anti-choicer) thinks themself morally superior to the feminist, but not just in regards to the abortion issue. Rather they think themselves morally superior on all issues due to their stance on a single issue. This is a generalisation, but no doubt it is true to a fair extent.

February 13, 2005 2:58 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Religion has always been political since the church is also seeking power (wealth). Does it have more influence now than 50 years ago is a good question. Here in America it seems so, not so much because more people are going to church, but because the pseudo-christians have aligned themselves with the far right whackos and use abortion and gay marriage to divert attention away from what should be the real issues: illegal wars and theft of the Treasury. As I understand it in traditionally Catholic countries like Spain, France, etc. the church is losing some of its influence. For example people are having fewer children, more people are getting divorces, less church attendence, etc. But throughout history the dominate church has always made alliances with the ruling class in order to maintain favorable relations. Of course this always results in the working class and poor getting the shaft, but who cares as long as the elite stay on top, right? I will admit that beginning with Jimmie Carter our presidents seem to be more openly playing the religious card, but everyone of them has also been a phoney and none more so than the current resident of the White House.

February 13, 2005 7:17 AM  
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February 13, 2005 7:24 AM  
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February 13, 2005 7:24 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've actually heard people say they voted for Bush even though they disagreed with almost all his policies including the war, but because he was against abortion and gay marriage. This and previous comment -

DS

February 13, 2005 7:26 AM  
Blogger Gerry said...

The two deleted comments were merely duplications by DS and not evil censorship.

Religion always was about control of the masses. And a "true believer" always does think s/he is morally superior to the great unwashed. That's even been true in the Labor Party, hmmm?

Let me tell you a bit about the ego: It always thinks it's "right", it always tries to "look good", and it always opts for "being safe". And if you let it, it will totally corrupt you everytime. It's what Christians call "the devil".

February 13, 2005 9:35 AM  

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