Nothing in this blog can be believed. If you think that anything in this blog is true or factual, you'll need to verify it from another source. Do you understand? No? Then read it again, and repeat this process, until you understand that you cannot sue me for anything you read here. Also, having been sucked into taking part in the mass-murder of more than 3 million Vietnamese people on behalf of U.S. Big Business "interests", I'm as mad as a cut snake (and broke) so it might be a bit silly to try to sue me anyway...

Monday, November 01, 2004

question #7...

What's the difference between knowing and believing?

16 Comments:

Blogger Jeff said...

The Grand Canyon.

November 01, 2004 8:01 AM  
Blogger Gerry said...

If my question had been a koan, Jeff, your answer would have been acceptable. :-) However, for the usual type of moron who reads this blog, could you please make an effort? Help me out a little bit, ok? :-)

November 01, 2004 9:18 AM  
Blogger Gerry said...

Oh, and you need to go back and answer Q6. ;-)

November 01, 2004 9:46 AM  
Blogger Jeff said...

I thought that I was the usual moron reading your blog!

November 01, 2004 12:48 PM  
Blogger Jeff said...

Go back to my answer to question 6. It's an area of individual perception. I can "know" that I'm sitting here and writing this message to your blog site, but what if I'm crazy and you don't really have a blogsite?

So you could say that I'm "believing" that I'm sitting here typing a message to your blogsite.

It's a blind maze really.

November 01, 2004 1:21 PM  
Blogger Gerry said...

Where I was coming from was that, for example, I know that I dropped my partner off at the airport this afternoon. I know that. And I know that I know that.

But I cannot know, for example, that the plane she got on was safe to fly in. At best I could believe that the plane was safe to fly in, but I could not claim to know that. That's what I mean about the difference between knowing and believing.

Is making this distinction important? I think so.

November 02, 2004 8:14 PM  
Blogger Jeff said...

To a sane individual it's a huge distiction. But who is sane and who is not? And can either of us PROVE that we're sane? You might have just thought that you dropped of a "real" person when in fact, it could be just someome that your mind unwittingly created. Hey! You got all of this started, pal!

November 03, 2004 7:42 AM  
Blogger Gerry said...

How would you define sanity?

November 04, 2004 11:49 PM  
Blogger Jeff said...

Since, for all intents and purposes, I'm the only "god" that matters to me, I'll choose to define "sanity" as anything I decide to accept or believe as credible at any particular time I choose.

November 05, 2004 12:46 PM  
Blogger Gerry said...

that's not a very satisfying definition, Jeff...

November 05, 2004 1:57 PM  
Blogger Jeff said...

It wasn't meant to be "satisfying," only true, Gerry.

November 06, 2004 12:19 PM  
Blogger Gerry said...

So sanity is a purely subjective thing defined by each individual as they see fit? Not a very useful definition, Jeff.

I prefer something like "the ability to differentiate, after an experience, the between dreaming and awakeness, the between halucination and reality." Or something like that.

November 06, 2004 8:15 PM  
Blogger Jeff said...

Gerry, you and I could each eat half of a single orange. You could say, "damn, that's tart!" I could say "damn, that's sweet!"

So we differ on our appraisal of the flavor, but in the end, the only thing that matters is how each of us interprets the taste. One "god" (me) thinks it's sweet; another "god" (you) thinks it's tart. Neither "god" makes the orange taste any different, but it doesn't matter.

The only thing that matters is that each of us singularly reacted and ate half of an orange. Get my drift?

November 07, 2004 2:04 AM  
Blogger Gerry said...

IN my previous comment, the last two "the" shopuld be deleted. I don't know why I put them there. Insanity perhaps. I am but an egg. Thou art god. :-)

November 07, 2004 8:47 AM  
Blogger Jeff said...

A tip of the hat from one insane god to another.

November 07, 2004 12:47 PM  
Blogger Gerry said...

Jeff: Robert Heinlein - Stranger In A Strange Land. Read it. You'll love it.

November 07, 2004 10:15 PM  

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