tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6732615.post113481289995879349..comments2023-09-26T02:09:58.787+10:00Comments on diogenesian discourse: reminders for the advanced soul...Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6732615.post-1135207052643307502005-12-22T10:17:00.000+11:002005-12-22T10:17:00.000+11:00Deirdre, "I dunno" is not a bad place from which t...Deirdre, "I dunno" is not a bad place from which to examine things...<BR/><BR/>Davo, I've got a few stories of my own. You know what they say about nihilists, don't you? "They'll amount to nothing in the end..." :-)The Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03884172849865230486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6732615.post-1135167347187628192005-12-21T23:15:00.000+11:002005-12-21T23:15:00.000+11:00Gerry, there have been three instances in my life...Gerry, there have been three instances in my life that are 'inexplicable' by any rational terms. So, yes, have to agree that the "truth" is still a mystery.Davohhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02785126939071213905noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6732615.post-1135166290939073512005-12-21T22:58:00.000+11:002005-12-21T22:58:00.000+11:00Well, thanks for the lesson, Padre :) I'll just go...Well, thanks for the lesson, Padre :) I'll just go back to "I donno."Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10788829203519181545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6732615.post-1135118658313191562005-12-21T09:44:00.000+11:002005-12-21T09:44:00.000+11:00Regarding atheists, what I said is not the complet...Regarding atheists, what I said is not the complete picture. <BR/><BR/>As I've demonstrated, they are true believers too. They believe in the ability of science to save their arse. They believe that somehow they'll discover what they need to discover to make something happen. They believe that somehow things will work out for the best. These are positive beliefs, and if there is power in belief, then there is power in those beliefs too. <BR/><BR/>It's just that they also use their power of belief to deny the existence of magic, miracle, spirituality and the soul. <BR/>And if there is power in belief, then no religion (and atheism is a religion) has yet made a good job of it... All they seem to create is fanatical bigots...<BR/><BR/>The truth is still a huge mystery.The Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03884172849865230486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6732615.post-1135117878171727272005-12-21T09:31:00.000+11:002005-12-21T09:31:00.000+11:00Geez, Deirdre, do I have to explain it to you? She...Geez, Deirdre, do I have to explain it to you? Sheesh! ;-)<BR/><BR/>"...and as he believed, so it was..." and "...and as they believed, so it was..."<BR/><BR/>What do you think that's all about? It's about the power of belief to create (or prevent) magic/miracles happening.<BR/><BR/>So, in the above example contra-belief would deny the possibility of magic/miracles happening, and if there is power in belief, then there is power in contra-belief. It's the power that kills magic/miracles/spirituality/etc. It's nihilism.<BR/><BR/>Agnosticism at least leaves the door of possibility open.<BR/><BR/>The atheists reading this are laughing their heads off. When all you've got is this life and even then only a materialistic view of this world, you kill the essence of 'Illusions', and you kill the soul, and you're left with the ego running the show, and you're terrified of death...<BR/><BR/>Here endeth the lesson... :-)<BR/><BR/>(Didn't think I could do it, did you?)The Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03884172849865230486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6732615.post-1135116334971001422005-12-21T09:05:00.000+11:002005-12-21T09:05:00.000+11:00Relevance to Illusions? It's a while since I read ...Relevance to <I>Illusions</I>? It's a while since I read it, but I don't remember that sort of question being part of the mix. (Or are you making an off-topic comment here, G? Please keep on track, old son. There are RULES about this sort of thing, you know.)Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10788829203519181545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6732615.post-1135080619759584542005-12-20T23:10:00.000+11:002005-12-20T23:10:00.000+11:00Deirdre, Contra-belief is a belief to the contrary...Deirdre, Contra-belief is a belief to the contrary. In this case the belief that there is no god. The bigotry bit comes into it when they get so caught up in their belief (that there is no god) that they refuse to consider the logical reasoning which would show them that the best rational position they can adopt is the agnostic one.The Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03884172849865230486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6732615.post-1135071450417739452005-12-20T20:37:00.000+11:002005-12-20T20:37:00.000+11:00I'm now wondering what "mere contra-believers' big...I'm now wondering what "mere contra-believers' bigoted rejection" means, damn you! (Like there wasn't already enough to wonder about...)Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10788829203519181545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6732615.post-1135065527869050682005-12-20T18:58:00.000+11:002005-12-20T18:58:00.000+11:00D, yes, but then I have quite a few experiences wh...D, yes, but then I have quite a few experiences which are almost impossible to explain. Certainly the sceptics' explanations seem mere contra-believers' bigoted rejection. So, I still wonder...The Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03884172849865230486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6732615.post-1135043144387443432005-12-20T12:45:00.000+11:002005-12-20T12:45:00.000+11:00Wondering is good. What I hate is the sadness that...Wondering is good. What I hate is the sadness that comes from thinking about the parts of me I left behind. I kinda liked them, even if they were wrong. Being right doesn't always compare to feeling sure (as those parts did), and now I never know what's right anyway. <BR/><BR/>How about I just go with "I donno, too"? That would've been quicker.<BR/>:)Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10788829203519181545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6732615.post-1134987698211271482005-12-19T21:21:00.000+11:002005-12-19T21:21:00.000+11:00I donno, Deirdre. The dominant sceptic in me thes...I donno, Deirdre. The dominant sceptic in me these days agrees with you, but there's the other part that still wonders... I just dunno...The Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03884172849865230486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6732615.post-1134987245170745842005-12-19T21:14:00.000+11:002005-12-19T21:14:00.000+11:00I don't know, I used to get carried away with Illu...I don't know, I used to get carried away with <I>Illusions</I>-type "perfect explanations", but now I just feel sceptical. If you can sum up great truths in a neat little sentence, maybe they're not all that great or true?Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10788829203519181545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6732615.post-1134953365140000782005-12-19T11:49:00.000+11:002005-12-19T11:49:00.000+11:00Deirdre, there's a part of me which thinks it reco...Deirdre, there's a part of me which thinks it recognises, in Illusions, a prefect explanation of how the universe works.<BR/><BR/>But that part got run over by this part in about 1995. :-(The Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03884172849865230486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6732615.post-1134906391777173932005-12-18T22:46:00.000+11:002005-12-18T22:46:00.000+11:00Some of those Messiah thingies are just puke-induc...Some of those Messiah thingies are just puke-inducing, you know. For example:<BR/><BR/><I>A cloud does not know why it moves in just such a direction and at such a speed. It feels an impulsion... this is the place to go now. But the sky knows the reasons and the patterns behind all clouds, and you will know, too, when you lift yourself high enough to see beyond horizons.</I><BR/><BR/>I suggest Mr Bach might have lifted himself so high he suffered oxygen deprivation.<BR/>;)Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10788829203519181545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6732615.post-1134819544416164802005-12-17T22:39:00.000+11:002005-12-17T22:39:00.000+11:00Link, it's a battle...Link, it's a battle...The Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03884172849865230486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6732615.post-1134818736696006152005-12-17T22:25:00.000+11:002005-12-17T22:25:00.000+11:00I have one friend in particular and manys the time...I have one friend in particular and manys the time I've been giving him a good 'talking' too - raving on and on undoubtedly boring him senseless only to realise I have actually been delivering a dissertation which one of my little selves should be heeding. Haven't seen him for a while. Don't know anyone I should be giving a good talking too at the moment. Other than self, and we's all have an arrangement when not fighting and contradicting one another, to ignore ourselves. So one says go and write in your journal and maybe PRAY for Godsakes! and the other one has me here dribbling away on your blog instead. Its a battle!Linkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12346948772651971988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6732615.post-1134817137241931512005-12-17T21:58:00.000+11:002005-12-17T21:58:00.000+11:00O.K ego morte. Phew, thanks for that. No more comm...O.K ego morte. Phew, thanks for that. No more comments from me (at least for a while).Cheers.Davohhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02785126939071213905noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6732615.post-1134815211031545162005-12-17T21:26:00.000+11:002005-12-17T21:26:00.000+11:00No, mate. That's just your ego. Kill it!!!No, mate. That's just your ego. Kill it!!!The Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03884172849865230486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6732615.post-1134813788206633392005-12-17T21:03:00.000+11:002005-12-17T21:03:00.000+11:00umm, am wondering if that has anything to do with ...umm, am wondering if that has anything to do with <A HREF="http://wombatswaffles.blogspot.com/2005/12/merry-christmas.html" REL="nofollow">me</A>?Davohhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02785126939071213905noreply@blogger.com